it is, i think, self-evident that what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. well, if it was self-evident, why didn't the president call this exactly what it was, an act of terror on the anniversary of 9/11? >> well, this is an event of great interest, obviously, to the public, to the news media. information was being provided realtime. obviously, you're going to know more two weeks after an event than a week after an event. and as ambassador rice was -- that was the information from the intelligence community. the same information provided for congress. the reason obviously we now have stipulated this is a terrorist attack is that came from the intelligence agencies. so as information has become available, as this investigation has continued, we're obviously making that information known. and i think the important thing, what the american people want to understand, are we taking the right steps to -- >> but there's also the question on whether or not you call this what it is on the day it happens. jay carney said it was self evident this was a terrorist attac